On Sunday, a good friend and I began talking about illegal aliens and the law. My friend is very bright, and understands the economic magnet that draws so many to cross our border, but he also has a deep and abiding respect for the legal process established in the constitution and the laws that develop through that process. He believes in the rule of law, the principle that nobody is above the law, and in crossing our border illegally, these people put themselves above the law. What he does not understand is why so many illegal aliens unabashedly demand rights once established within our country.
I have heard the same question voiced by others and I would like to take a crack at answering it. Like many deep questions in life, it reminds me of a conversation between Spock and McCoy in a Star Trek movie. Through a series of movies, Spock dies, but transfers is "katra" the essence of his soul, to McCoy's body. His body is laid to rest on a planet undergoing the rapid evolution to life through the Genesis technology. The process not only creates life on this dead planet, but brings back a Spock that does not have his soul. Our heroes are able to transfer Spock's katra to his body. McCoy asks the obvious question, "What is it like being dead?" Spock answers by telling him that they cannot discuss this question because they do not have a common experience, death, on which to base their discussion.
We do not share a common experience, the rule of law, with most people living in our country illegally. Largely, they come from countries that North, Wallis, and Weingast refer to as a limited access order. The most powerful groups form a dominant coalition that rules the country. It doles out economic benefits to coalition members roughly in proportion to the violence each group could bring to the coalition if not rewarded. Economic benefits are distributed, not earned.
Groups and individuals outside the ruling coalition have resources, and attempt to use them to earn profits or income to better their lives, but their ability to use these resources is limited by the ruling or dominant coalition. The dominant coalition will protect the economic distribution of benefits they establish because disrupting it could plunge the country into something akin to a civil war.
Hernando De Soto wrote an influential book titled, El Otro Sendero, or The Other Path, in which he describes the plight of many Peruvians, most of whom are indigenous, and outside the dominant ruling coalition. They have resources and energy, but the law is against them. The law makes it hard for them to migrate to the cities where there are better economic opportunities, and better access to health care and education. When the book was written, they could not build homes, obtain business licenses, or otherwise legally engage in production or retail trade.
They responded by operating outside the law in informal markets exercising what our founders believed were God given rights of life, liberty (economic and otherwise) and the pursuit of happiness. These illegal activities improved their lives, increasing their economic prosperity, and access to better health care and education for their children. They would like to live within the law, but the law as currently constituted is stacked against them. They would like to change their country through elections, but this is dangerous because it challenges the dominant coalition that limits violence, bringing peace.
When people from these countries cross our borders illegally, their frame of reference is a land of limited access, where the law was designed to punish them. Before they arrive, they know that they will be acting illegally, but for them, it is no different than their current existence. Their law and our law punishes them. They don't understand how our constitution provides opportunity to all citizens operating within the law. It is beyond their experience.
Well to start off...Many are illegal aliens and, supposing they did understand how our country provides to all who follow the law, they would not be able to in many cases becuase they aren't even supposed to be here. This, obviously, results in them doing underhanded things to keep the law from noticing them. Although they are here, they can only do so much. Many cannot get a job (illegal aliens or another reason) and choose to live here because of the safety and opportunity it provides for them and their U.S. born children. This leaves many to sell drugs and take part in all kinds of illegal activities such as in their home-country. Many don't know anything else, because they have not experienced the United States. And what they have experienced, they cannot completely put their hands on.
ReplyDeleteI can see the method to the madness of both parties described in this article; that of the law abiding citizens and of the illegal aliens as well. Citizens who support our constitution and live within the law are completely appalled at the actions of illegal aliens; because they have built their lives in a manner that obeys the law and has given them numerous opportunities and rights. Due to this, it is hard for them to fathom why people would expect to commit illegal activities and still be granted with the same rights as law-abiding citizens. I understand this point of view, and I share the standpoint of these people, however, I can also understand how the illegal aliens' warped way of living has molded them into thinking this way. They think that the same way of life and how everything is ruled automatically follows them wherever they go, so they continue their way of life instead of doing what would actually give them a better life. I can understand where they are coming from, but I do not agree with or approve of their actions. I feel that if they are to come into our country, even illegally, the aliens should be made to live just as every other citizen is expected to here. It is a peeve of mine that they expect to be treated the same way, without acting the same way as we do. If they opened up to our way of life, they would enrich their lives extensively.
ReplyDeleteFor the Illegal immigrant, whether they stay in their original home or move to America it is a losing situation. If they stay in their home land they are being mistreated because they are not part of the dominant party and on the other hand if they come to America they do not understand the laws so therefore they are punishing themselves. The reason they cannot understand the laws of America though is because they are denied the access to education in their homeland. It is a vicious cycle that will keep repeating itself unless something is done to educate they illegal immigrants.
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It is unfortunate that we view and stereotype immigrants without knowing their story. It is even more unfortunate that some immigrants we have perform bad actions thus, leading them to produce a shadow over ALL immigrants making us assume that all of them are bad. There comes to a point if nothing is going your way, you will make a sacrifice and bring all the chips to the table. The "good" immigrants that don't cause any trouble are fine with me. Most likely they are doing jobs that even our lower class doesn't want to do. But to immigrants, they see it as opportunity, and they gratefully take the job and work extremely hard. Harder than the handful of lazy Americans we have living off welfare. I just wish that the hard working immigrants would get a chance to become citizens and live the real American dream. It seems to be that if they do get caught, they get punished without an explanation. If we truly saw that they were hard working people, working for a purpose (to send money home and support their family) they definitely deserve to be here. But because of the punishments a lot of the immigrants hide and are scared to come out and try to become a U.S. citizen (assuming they even have any kind of assistance to become one). It's sad enough that they leave their home and family behind just to try and succeed, right?
ReplyDeleteLet me see if I can get a firm grasp on all this..If I cross the North Korean Border illegally I get 12 years hard labor...Iran border..detained indefinitely, Afghanistan..your shot, Saudi Arabian border you get to go to jail , Chinese border, we probably will never hear from you again that is just a few...there are no borders that you can cross illegally that there will not be a consequence except the United States, they can get a drivers lic, social security card, welfare, food stamps , subsidized rent, free health care, free rent and even a lobbyist in Washington. They have the right to carry their country's flag while they protest that they don't get enough respect. I know of one that worked in the United States illegally for years, he is married to an American. Because he has a criminal record he hasn't been allowed to become a citizen at this point. His job took him to the gates of Ft Hood about six months ago. He worked a week on Ft Hood before they caught him using another persons work permit. He has been in jail in San Antonio for the past six months.His hearing is next week. He has an attorney that is representing him to get him out and try to get him where he can become an American citizen even though he has a criminal background. When I asked about him last week I was told he was going to court on Thursday and that it really doesn't matter. If he does get deported I was told he would be back in about a week. If they are coming in illegally and not doing it the right way there is a reason! Some are bring in diseases and a lot are criminals. I wish nothing but the best for these people but they have to give the best to be here. They have to do this legally. When the immigrants first came into the United States they had a hospital full of people that were sick. As it was there were some that didn't get detained and outbreaks of cholera, typhoid and other diseases were rampant in the United States. It isn't just the money, or the benefits that are all of the problem it is the criminals and the ones that are carrying diseases and bringing it into our country. It needs to be stopped and somehow get it under control. Read about Ellis Island if you have any doubts about what I am saying!
ReplyDeleteI married into a Mexican family and the culture is very different. My husband and his parents were born here, but beyond that I don’t know. They complain about the illegals taking all the jobs. The Mexicans come here to work, and provide for their families in Mexico. From the view of an American the first thing we think is, fine get a work visa. If they could they would. It’s not so simple in Mexico to just go fill out the application and pay the processing fee, and get your Visa. They have to prove they will come back. I have to laugh at that because the idea you have to prove you will return shows the Mexican government knows their country is not desirable to its citizens. Who wants to go to Mexico, vacationers wanting a cheap vacation, those with family there, and those running from the law? Wonder what Mexicans think of us gringos?
ReplyDeleteOkay so what about those jobs the illegal immigrants are working most are unskilled jobs, so Americans can go to college and get skilled jobs. How many Americans are employed to keep illegals out, detain, locate, or deport illegals? I believe the illegals are working with the resources they are given, maybe more American businesses should move their production factories to Mexico. I believe a better solution is possible, but I don’t know what.
I wanted to add more to my comment that I made a couple of months ago. Some time has passed and I wanted to update on this illegal. They went to court but the attorney from Falls County didn't show up. So, he has now been transferred to Falls County jail where he has been for a few months now. What his family that he has married into told me is that if they would go ahead and deport him he would be out of jail and back to his home in Falls County in a few days instead of sitting in jail so long.He has now been in jail about 9 months and tax money has supported him. To top it all off since his wife now has to make it without him as support she is now on welfare. So the whole family is separated, he is supported in jail, she is supported by tax welfare dollars. How many are our tax dollars supporting that are in this same type situation?
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